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EXCHANGE201120227 works · 6 named replies

The argument from logic — a decade-long exchange

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Anderson & Welty 2011 → Bozzo c. 2012 → Anderson & Welty 2013 → Malpass 2016-11 → Malpass 2017-02 → Malpass 2021 → Anderson 2022-02
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The argument from logic — a decade-long exchange

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A small, years-long published exchange, not a storm. Read each entry as an answer to the one before it — not as a free-standing maximum.

  1. rebuts Anderson & Welty 2011

  2. rebuts Bozzo 2012

  3. rebuts Anderson & Welty 2011

  4. rebuts Anderson & Welty 2011

  5. refines Malpass 2017

  6. rebuts Malpass 2021

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STORMc. 419202514 works · 21 named replies

The Filioque controversy — a sixteen-century exchange

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Augustine c. 419 → Toledo 589 → Maximus c. 645 → Leo III 810 → Constantinople 879–880 → Photius c. 885 → Benedict VIII 1014 → Aquinas c. 1268 → Lyons II 1274 → Florence 1439 → Lossky 1948 → Rome 1995 → Siecienski 2010 → Siecienski 2025
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The Filioque controversy — a sixteen-century exchange

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Written into a schism and reunion councils. Augustine is a Father of the undivided Church. The Orthodox glyph marks that reception, not later-party membership after 1054. He did not invent the Creed clause and is not Florence's cause language; he did write that the Spirit proceeds principally from the Father and in common from Father and Son as one Beginning. Arian pressure shaped how he argued the Son's equality; De Trinitate still states that as positive doctrine. The later contested hardening is Toledo's credal use, Carolingian interpolation, the 1014 papal Mass, Lyons, and Florence. Leo III in 810 and Constantinople 879–880 refused the insertion while Rome itself still sang the 381 text. Read each entry as an answer under pressure, not a free-standing maximum.

  1. latin locus

    On the Holy Trinity (opens source in a new tab)

    Augustine of Hippo · De Trinitate XV.17.29 / XV.26.47 / V.14.15

    Father of the undivided Church, received as an Orthodox saint. The Orthodox glyph marks that reception, not later-party membership after 1054. Three senses of 'Filioque': he did not insert or teach the Creed clause (Toledo and later); he is not Florence's later language that the Son is cause of the Spirit 'just like the Father'; he did write that the Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father principally, and in common from Father and Son as one Beginning, the Son having that from the Father. That third sense is why later Catholics cite him, and why a blunt 'he teaches the Filioque' can sound true. Maximus could defend Latins of his day because they had not made the Son the cause. Lossky left a manifestation-compatible reading open. Our test: compatible with Maximus's condition, not identical wording. A common flattening (the charge against Jay Dyer here) treats Augustine as teaching the same Filioque Orthodoxy is fighting (Creed insertion and Florence cause language), rather than this pre-schism principaliter account.

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    Council of Toledo · Toledo, 589

    First Filioque language in a credal setting: Reccared's profession and canon 3. A regional Visigothic synod, not an ecumenical change to the 381 text. Spain also begins reciting the Creed at the Eucharist. A. E. Burn (1908) argued the clause was later interpolated into the records; the joint 2003 Consultation still treats 589 as the earliest credal-context use. The open text here is that Consultation, not the Toledo acta.

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  3. Refusal to insert the Filioque in the Creed (opens source in a new tab)

    Pope Leo III · Rome, 810

    Leo allows Latin teaching that the Spirit is also from the Son, including for catechesis. That is not Florence's later dogma that the Son is cause of the Spirit just like the Father. He refuses to insert the clause into the Creed of 381. The bishops at Constantinople, he says, were no less inspired than Aachen. The silver shields in St. Peter's (uninterpolated Greek and Latin) are reported in the Liber Pontificalis; that detail is secondary to the refusal itself. A pope against insertion, two centuries before Rome sings the clause at Mass.

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  4. inherits Leo III 810

    Horos of Constantinople (Photian Council) (opens source in a new tab)

    Council of Constantinople · 879–880

    Reaffirms the Creed of 381 without Filioque and anathematizes anyone who would compose another confession. No extensive Filioque doctrine debate; the clause was not yet in Rome's own Creed. Photius's restoration is a separate person-file. After the council, John VIII, like Leo III, kept the 381 text. This is a procedure ruling, not a verdict that procession from the Son is heresy.

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  5. inherits Maximus c. 645

    On the Mystagogy of the Holy Spirit (opens source in a new tab)

    Photius of Constantinople

    The Greek case systematized: a spirative property shared by Father and Son that individuates neither mixes the hypostatic idioms (§16). Same settlement Maximus defended (Father alone as cause; through the Son as manifestation), carried forward without naming Maximus in the opened English. That English of Mystagogy §§1–18 also does not name Augustine.

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  6. rebuts Constantinople 879–880

  7. cites Augustine c. 419

  8. inherits Benedict VIII 1014

    On the supreme Trinity and the catholic faith (opens source in a new tab)

    Second Council of Lyons · Lyons, 1274

    First reunion-council dogma of the Filioque: the Spirit proceeds from Father and Son as from one principle, not two. A hard stop for later Latin dogma, not the first Latin 'from the Son' teaching. Augustine's principaliter, Toledo's credal use, Leo III's catechesis-without-insertion, and the 1014 papal Mass all come earlier. Florence later restates and hardens this.

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  9. inherits Lyons II 1274

  10. rebuts Florence 1439

    The Procession of the Holy Spirit in Orthodox Trinitarian Doctrine (opens source in a new tab)

    Vladimir Lossky · In the Image and Likeness of God, ch. 4

    Calls him St. Augustine. Names De Trinitate and leaves open a possible manifestation reading of Augustine's Filioquism, saying a full Orthodox analysis is still needed. The later error he names is Lyons and Florence, not Hippo. Names Aquinas on opposite relations. Continues Photius's monarchy line; this is a historical reply, not a modern rival worldview.

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  11. refines Florence 1439

  12. cites Maximus c. 645

    The Filioque: History of a Doctrinal Controversy

    A. Edward Siecienski · Oxford University Press

    The standard history. Debby’s packet met it through Dyer’s book-club excerpt (Toledo → Maximus → Lyons/Florence), not first-hand — the first-hand source for the verdict is the 2025 paper below. Not free; no verified link.

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  13. rebuts Florence 1439

    Unity of the Churches — An Actual Possibility: The Rahner–Fries Theses and Contemporary Catholic–Orthodox Dialogue (opens source in a new tab)

    A. Edward Siecienski · Analogia 9

    The Catholic specialist’s verdict, first-hand: Maximus’s formula is the reunion key — Father as sole cause of the ekporeusis, “through the Son” as manifestation — and “the Latins at Florence were not yet prepared” to take it, though it was they who introduced the letter.

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